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Quick Note to Whoopi

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Here’s the entire text of a message I sent to ABC, hoping they will forward it to Whoopi Goldberg.

Quick notes to Whoopi:
• Newport News, VA is not the “deep South.”
• Most of us in the “deep South” do not condone nor participate in dog fighting nor animal abuse of any sort.
• I agree that his culture might have something to do with it, but it’s more of a black culture thing, and not a southern culture thing. If she had made that more clear and been more honest, she would have had a more powerful argument.

Either way, black culture, southern culture, whatever, the fact is he knew it was ILLEGAL! End of story.

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Written by blogicalinks

September 4, 2007 at 11:43 pm

Posted in Venting

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  1. Kudos to you.
    Good email.

    Ru's Mom

    September 4, 2007 at 11:59 pm

  2. Not that I have ever supported Whoppi, but she is showing her ignorance now more than ever.

    I seem to recall a situation a few years ago when she was dating Ted Danson. He showed up to a party in blackface, and she was very irate because he insulted “her people”. You would think that someone who has personally felt the sting of ignorance and hatred would think twice (or maybe even once) before making a comment that could be potentially ignorant and hatred towards a group of people in general. I believe that’s called “racism”. Of course, it’s okay of a minority makes a racist comment against a majority, because they’re repressed anyway, right?

    Along the lines of your last entry (and our resulting comments), I think the solution is to boycott the advertisers of the show, or at least copy them in any e-mails or other letters. Hit ’em where it hurts – the almighty dollar$.

    I shall now turn over my soapbox to the next…

    Eric Kaplan

    September 5, 2007 at 8:27 am

  3. I know lots of black people and never have I known one that enjoys hurting or seeing hurt animals. It’s not a black thing either.

    I’m not a fan of lumping groups of people together in stereotypes especially if it relates to skin color or cultures. It’s wrong to say it’s a cultural thing on so many levels.

    I would only say that it’s a piece-of-poo person type thing. So if all piece-of-poo people do it, it’s ok? No, that doesn’t make it better either. I’m shocked she went there. She’s just plain wrong all the way around.

    Carmen

    September 5, 2007 at 10:21 am

  4. I finally watched the video and even though I don’t think she is necessarily defending his actions, she is defending his thoughts as if he is so young and dumb that he is just now realizing what he did was wrong. Why does he think that dog fighting is so underground? Duh – because it’s illegal. He is not that young and he is certainly not dumb. That’s why he lied and said he knew nothing about it when he was first being accused.

    Her need to explain and make light of his reasoning for an illegal and brutal act is very sad. And for the record, as disgusting as it is, cock fighting in Puerto Rico is legal there. That’s not a very good comparison, since again, it’s not a cultural thing – it’s a legal thing.

    She’s been in her LA actress bubble for too long.

    Carmen

    September 5, 2007 at 11:18 am

  5. Whew, lots of whoopi hatin’ going on here…i won’t jump on that band wagon for now, she tends to amuse me from time to time.

    That being said, i haven’t seen the clip of her on the view, but i think it was more a matter of not saying the whole truth or not saying what she meant clearly enough. A few things to note though…while the south may not be a true breeding ground for dog fighting, it is definitely more prominent among southern black men than it is among northern black men. Perhaps that was where her comments stemmed from but she never came out and said. Also, the south in general (i loves me some sweeping generalizations personally;)), especially the “old” south, has its issues when it comes to animals and backwoods activities to start with. Cheryl, i won’t say much here, but think: “daddy and some unplanned puppies” kinds of stories. Imagine if that thinking had continued with you…perhaps you’d have the same regard for dogs as Vick. And this whole holding dogs/animals in such high regard and protecting them with laws is a pretty new invention and those people who grew up thinking otherwise are generally still rather clueless (remember, there are still people in china etc. that are eating dogs for meat and the younger generations are just now trying to bring these older adults around to the idea of dogs for pets). Plus you have to factor in that Hotlanta gangsta mentality where pit bulls and violence in general are “cool”, add the proposition of money and gambling to that mix and you’ve got trouble. There’s nothing new about using animals (not pets) for sport, violent/deadly or not, and if you’ve got all these factors playing into it, then i don’t know why people are so damned surprised by this whole thing. I suppose no one thought someone in the public eye so much would be so dumb. I think whoopi wasn’t out of line, she simply said what she had observed.

    On a side note, i too have met far more black people who don’t like/are scared of dogs than i’ve met white people who feel that way. But after thinking on it for a bit, i realized this…if you grew up in a crappy (read: violent, impoverished, under-educated) part of town and the only dogs you came into contact with regularly were the unsavory pitbull, rottweiler, chow breeds that ended up being mean and unruly because they’ve been pinned in a fence or on a chain their whole lives and taught to protect, would you be loving on dogs? It’s not like you see a ton of yorkies and labradoodles running around Ensley to give folks there a positive association with dogs. Should we start a cute-dog outreach to these communities like when people take their dogs to nursing homes to cheer up the old folks? 😉

    Oh, and did Vick *really* know the whole dog part of what he was doing was illegal? Or was he just worried in the beginning that it was the gambling part that got him in trouble? Like maybe he really didn’t know that dog fighting in and of itself was illegal, who knows? There are dumber people on the planet for sure. And so ends my book.

    wenzday

    September 5, 2007 at 3:58 pm

  6. YES!!! A cute dog outreach program!! 🙂

    Vick’s own father told him not to fight those dogs so I don’t think it has a thing to do with his upbringing.

    Dianne

    September 5, 2007 at 4:49 pm

  7. Well then i suppose what we don’t know is if Vick’s father is the type of guy who grew up going to dog fights and would gladly go to another one but knows it’s illegal and doesn’t want his son getting in trouble, or if he’s the type of guy who truly finds it despicable, gross, disgusting, all kinds of wrong, and simply ridiculous in this day and age. Even if it’s the latter, the climate in which he was raised may have been strikingly different than what his father believed. Peer pressure is always a factor too.

    wenzday

    September 5, 2007 at 6:25 pm

  8. My mom also has a big fear of animals. So much that she has not been to my new house because I have two big “scary” dogs. I think that a lot of people that are very scared of dogs were not necessarily around bad dogs in their lives, they were just not around dogs at all. A lot of people that have many children do not have the time, energy or money for dogs. In my mom’s case and in the cases of most people I know that have that deathly fear were one of at least 5 children and never got to know a dog well. Just my observation.

    Carmen

    September 5, 2007 at 8:09 pm

  9. I love dogs and utterly oppose violence of all sorts against animals, but I must say, there is an accepted bias against cats that goes on all the time that no one addresses. To wit: I have a picture of my cat when she was kitten on my desk, and people in my office routinely go by and say things like “I have a boat anchor that looks just like that.” And I say, “She’s just little kitten.” And they say, “Got to kill him while they’re little, before they grow up to be cats.”

    I’m sure he had plenty of time to ponder that while he was buying new tires after I slashed them. Contrary to popular belief among the ignorant, cats are not less friendly than dogs, they are just friendlier to fewer people. Very selective. You’ve got to earn it with cats.

    In my universe of justice, all of the people who run over, kick, yell at, and revile cats will spend the next life surrounded by them. For that matter, those of us who love cats will, too.

    Are you with me, Cheryl???!

    valitalynn

    September 7, 2007 at 9:40 am


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